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01.07.2007, 22:58 quote
I moved to the North West 3 years ago, to Chester, and then to Sunny Salford last September. Beforehand I always lived south of the Watford Gap. I have what's known as an 'estuary' accent (wearing away thank god) and people here call me a 'cockney'. My point is that I have come to think these northern towns are great. Once you get over the gloomy terraced streets, run down industrial landscapes, the constant rain, and the roving packs of scallies you can really fall in love with a place like this! I see the good in everything and this place is great, even greater is the fabulous countryside within easy travelling difference.
This 'suvvern cant' feels happier oop north now! (is that hardly surprising as I grew up in Milton Keynes? 
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02.07.2007, 11:53 quote
| Minijellytot wrote: |
halleuh a covert  |
Did you mean covert as in undercover, or convert..??
I think I am more of a convert than an infiltrator, but you never know with us dodgy southerners.
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02.07.2007, 11:55 quote
| jackdav wrote: | ||
Did you mean covert as in undercover, or convert..?? I think I am more of a convert than an infiltrator, but you never know with us dodgy southerners. |
Sorry i did mean a convert damn typos
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03.02.2008, 19:07 quote
| jackdav wrote: |
| I moved to the North West 3 years ago, to Chester, and then to Sunny Salford last September. Beforehand I always lived south of the Watford Gap. |
Welcome to civilization Jack! We let the southern jessies think 'it's grim oop north' to keep 'em all 'darn sarf' but you seem to have slipped through the net! Have you read Stuart Maconie's 'Pies and Prejudice' yet? Definitely recommend it.
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| I have what's known as an 'estuary' accent (wearing away thank god) and people here call me a 'cockney'. |
Problem is, you're now 'persona non domicile' - you'll always be a cockney up here, but when you go home, you'll be accused of becoming a notherner!
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| My point is that I have come to think these northern towns are great. Once you get over the gloomy terraced streets, run down industrial landscapes, the constant rain, |
Now now - less of that.... just cos you've bruised your delicate feet on t'cobbles...
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| and the roving packs of scallies |
Ah, been to Liverpool then?
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| you can really fall in love with a place like this! I see the good in everything and this place is great, even greater is the fabulous countryside within easy travelling difference. |
That's where I live - brung (dragged) up in Salford but legged it further up in Lancashire near to the coast and the hills (an' proper 'ills they are oop here - none of yer rolling South Downs rubbish)
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| This 'suvvern cant' feels happier oop north now! (is that hardly surprising as I grew up in Milton Keynes? ) |
Concrete cows and MK Dons... no wonder you ran away
K
03.02.2008, 19:31 quote
Hiya Kay 
First off I would like to 'thank' you for highlighting my poor sentence syntax by quoting this:
| jackdav wrote: |
| I moved to the North West 3 years ago, to Chester, and then to Sunny Salford last September. Beforehand I always lived south of the Watford Gap |
...and I have just done it again! I always judge people on their grammar so I should be careful of my own!
| kay265 wrote: |
| Problem is, you're now 'persona non domicile' - you'll always be a cockney up here, but when you go home, you'll be accused of becoming a notherner! |
It has happened already. I went to London a few months ago and I was accused of being from the Midlands! My accent is in turmoil. I find myself doing those drawn out vowel sounds like in the Lancashire really (reh-leh) and, even worse, dropping a bit of the odd nasal Salford twang in.
I haven't read Stuart Maconie's book - I'll look out for it, but I have taken part in many discussions on Facebook about rolls, baps, barms, cobbs, and teacakes.
| kay265 wrote: |
| Ah, been to Liverpool then? |
Liverpool can no longer claim to be the true home of the scally - Salford is just as bad! Even Wikipedia knows this!
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| It is a word which appears to be in common use within towns that have historic Irish communities, for example Salford, Warrington and Liverpool, where it is sometimes abbreviated to "scall". As one leaves the industrial belt of the Mersey and Irwell Valleys the word appears to have been replaced by chav. |
You're right about MK - it's a toilet. Nothing to recommend itself whatsoever; although the MK Dons are on the up. I'm a Watford fan however
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03.02.2008, 19:55 quote
Grrr - typed a long (and extremely witty!) reply and my computer crashed. Will try it again next time I'm online as I'm about to chuck the computer out of the window! 
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03.02.2008, 23:35 quote
Ha ha you should have seen the one that got away
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04.02.2008, 18:13 quote
| jackdav wrote: | ||
| Hiya Kay
First off I would like to 'thank' you for highlighting my poor sentence syntax by quoting this:
...and I have just done it again! I always judge people on their grammar so I should be careful of my own! |
In that case, I won't mention your use of 'easy travelling difference'!
I'm the same - am always correcting people's spelling, grammar and punctuation. Problem with that is that if you make a mistake, no one will ever let you forget it!
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It has happened already. I went to London a few months ago and I was accused of being from the Midlands! My accent is in turmoil. I find myself doing those drawn out vowel sounds like in the Lancashire really (reh-leh) and, even worse, dropping a bit of the odd nasal Salford twang in. |
Nowt wrong wi' a bit o' Salford twang, our kid! The worst accent with the drawn out vowels is Bolton - they sound like thurr battereees ur goooin dooown....!
Worst was when I moved down south and got mistaken for a Scouser! And the amount of times southerners think that anything up north has to be Yorkshire...
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| I haven't read Stuart Maconie's book - I'll look out for it, but I have taken part in many discussions on Facebook about rolls, baps, barms, cobbs, and teacakes. |
A favourite argument across the area - but it's a barm. End of. Rolls are crusty, baps are crusty on top, no idea about cobbs and a teacake has currants in. And as for muffins - they either come in chocolate or blueberry varieties! Coventry call them 'batches' for some wierd reason. You can only have chips in a barm cos they're soft enough to squash em! Used to ask for barm cakes when I lived in St Albans (where anything other than a roll was awfully common) just to see the look of confusion cross their faces. Hungry now
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| Liverpool can no longer claim to be the true home of the scally - Salford is just as bad! Even Wikipedia knows this!
[quote="Wikipedia"]It is a word which appears to be in common use within towns that have historic Irish communities, for example Salford, Warrington and Liverpool, where it is sometimes abbreviated to "scall". As one leaves the industrial belt of the Mersey and Irwell Valleys the word appears to have been replaced by chav. |
For me, chavs and scallies are completely different, so I'd take issue with Wikipedia - a scally is your stereotypical Harry Enfield Scouser, always looking out for a dodgy deal or to 'rob' your wallet. A particular habit is the ability to offend people totally with their famous 'cheeky' sense of humour and then get terribly upset when you don't get the 'joke'!
Mind you, you're right - Salford is just as bad if not worse. Better sense of humour and accent though
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| You're right about MK - it's a toilet. Nothing to recommend itself whatsoever; although the MK Dons are on the up. I'm a Watford fan however |
My only visit to MK involved passing out in the Bowl and having to be carried off to the First Aid tent. Mind you, I'd gone with someone to watch REM (supported by the Cranberries) and ended up missing a lot of it, so it wasn't such a bad experience after all!
Shame MK had to resort to nicking someone else's football team though. I remember going to Vicarage Road a few times when I lived in St Albans. There was a chippy that had heard that northerners like chips and gravy so thought they were doing us all a massive favour by providing a plastic jug full of congealed Bisto
Have given up the Season Ticket I've held since the mid 80s at MUFCorporation as I won't fund the Yank's debt - we have much more fun in the Unibond watching FC United instead!
Think that's most of what I replied last night that I lost... will stop boring you now and have a nosy round the rest of this place!
K
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09.02.2008, 20:30 quote
Hi all you guys.
You think you've got accent issues!
Born in Charing Cross, and then lived and grew up in Tottenham etc. til I was 25, amongst the backdrop of Broadwater Farm, PC Blakelock et al.
Then have lived up in Lancashire since 1996, in Adlington, a village - or town some might say? - just backing onto Rivington and Chorley.
God knows what my accent is now, as I have recently fallen in love with Newcastle upon Tyne as a great place to visit, great people etc.
So I guess my accent is a cross between Harry Redknapp, Vernon Kay and Alan Shearer - dear god what did I do that was so awful !! lol !
Anyway really entertaining posts, keep up the good work, Jason.
09.02.2008, 23:30 quote
| kay265 wrote: |
| In that case, I won't mention your use of 'easy travelling difference'! |
Thanks for not mentioning it - I would hate for anyone to point that glaring typo out!
I have met a couple of Barnsley people since I have been oop north, and they DO talk funny using really archaic phrases too. The Bolton accent, however, is quite cute - when on a woman anyway
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| For me, chavs and scallies are completely different, so I'd take issue with Wikipedia - a scally is your stereotypical Harry Enfield Scouser, always looking out for a dodgy deal or to 'rob' your wallet. |
I think the definition of a 'scouser' has moved on from the 'eh eh eh' type permed scouser-in-a-shell-suit and become more applicable to the still be-tracksuited but shaven-headed and gold necklase wearing skanks that live all over the north west!
| linekers92 wrote: |
| So I guess my accent is a cross between Harry Redknapp, Vernon Kay and Alan Shearer - dear god what did I do that was so awful !! lol ! |
Hiya mate - if you're lucky all those conflicting accents will cancel each other out and you'll be talking perfect middle English!
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